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Resisting Mind Control with Conscious Awareness

This succinct video by David Icke says a lot. We need to be awake and aware. Our utmost remedy and escape from the PTBs is consciousness! Love, Zen

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  1. I think this may expalin the nightmarish war scene I found myslef dreaming the other night. The dream was so horrific compared to my usual peaceful dreams that I jolted into consciousness. I then simply chose to leave the dream.

    I have to kind of laugh at the thought of them trying to bring me down with a nightmare yet me having a lucid dreaming experience instead.

  2. Been spraying us all day here in So. Cal.
    I raise my third finger to the sky!!!!!
    I see you Mutherf–kers! Keep it up….we’ll see who’s still standing in the end!!!! :)

  3. All the mind control efforts and technologies can be like water on duck’s back, if you know how to ‘jump’. Jumping involves deliberately raising your consciousness by eliminating the grapple hooks which your dark side has anchored in you.

    Your biggest weakness is the dark side within. You don’t know how it came in or how many entities comprise it. Certain conditions of pollution in the body makes it welcome and allows it to be active and so grow roots. Many human beings are bodies with a fusion of soul and dark side. Usually, the dark side contributes the most to total behavior. For the majority of humans, only the dark side instigates behavior.

    The bodily pollution includes various kinds of acids which cause the pH to fall below 7 in a permanent way. Then there is a world of micro-organisms which comprise as much as 90% of the body mass, as is the conclusion of 1 English study. These micro-organisms even has place in the DNA strands. Then there are many many deposits in the body…mercury, other heavy metals, toxins and poisons (eg fire retardants). Calcium (and iron) are also deposited. The net effect is the congestion of the body. This causes poor distribution of nutrients and removal of waste. Micro-organisms love congestions.

    With the shutdown of the body’s distribution system, the compromise of the other systems and processes, the nervous system loses its vitality. Thus, the Nadis or Meridians function very imperfectly. Poor energy distribution is a situation ripe with prospects for the dark side as it asserts its own energy system.

    This is supported by the games of the dark side masses. When games are played for women who are called ‘energy’, it is for the regulation of the dark side within’s energy…not the soul’s. Thus, it is really the dark side which is responsive to the energies and influences from external sources. The technology that was designed for mind control was built to work by the effect it has on the dark side….or the kind of congested body in which the dark side can grow roots. To beat the mind control technology or the darksiders among the masses (they cause the same mind control effect ) one has to become the soul which is beyond their ability to affect.

    So, one can jump into being soul by reversing the pollution and congestion of bodies. Acidity must go. This is dealt with by different food and food supplements. Then, with the dark side’s home base flooded with health, one has to work on edifying the consciousness of the soul. Research and meditation, the company of good people, meditation and concentration etc can put the soul in its own world or forte…which mind control cannot penetrate. Like vibrates with like…as such dark side people and technology can only resonate with the dark side, not the soul! One will have to make this move to survive when the attack grows stronger!

  4. thought, speech and actions can also contribute to the dark side clinging, the sankharas, habitual tendencies, can perpetuate the unwholesome. Whereas mental training, of Calm and Insight, training of Generosity and Virtue, are building blocks in a Good Karma jump, the whole system needs a jump-start reset… mental and physical immunity improve, development of the Wholesome and Super Wholesome will then lead to Liberation from the Samsara Vicious Cycle of birth, death, etc.,

  5. Let them go wild with this stuff — the back fire it will create is incredible, and they have no clue about why it will and the schematics of it. Bring it!

  6. Of course your health went down. I am not sure changing one’s perception is enough.

    HAARP is one of the applications. With that said, you need to read this book about Americans who take a stand against govt. tyranny. It’s so real so I recommend it.

    booksbyoliver.com

    I do agree that we cannot let ‘fear’ get to us. That is what is the best weapon used against us.

  7. Please learn a bit about neurology before spouting your non-sense and believing shills like David Ike. The whole demons-aliens-mediums mythology being spread around is meant to make you believe we are powerless against the forces that govern our world. The proliferation of the alien myth (not that ETs don’t exist, they probably do) in the mass media is in preparation for the bankers-templars’s biggest coup. Those who rule our world are very much human, and they have always spread illusions to make us believe we cannot reach and neutralize them.

    If you knew anything about modern biology and neurology, you would know that there is no “dark side”. Evil doesn’t exist as a static state brought upon by DNA, demons or aliens. It is simply a complex neurological dysfunction created by shortcomings in the optimal emotional attachments in childhood, whether through proximal abandonment, separation anxiety, physical and-or psychological abuse, or all or many of the above, at varying degrees. It all has to do with stress (the true way how DID personalities are created), whether through what is needed and what is not needed in the form of stresses in childhood development. Whether through the lack of emotional attachments, or transient mild stresses that are optimal for cognitive development, and-or through constant high degree stresses that causes dysfunction. DNA are simply markers for action-reaction in our biology that are quite similar from one person to the other. The sequence itself is much too feeble to determine the wide array of synapses in the brain, which count in the trillions. It is the formal environment that brings the cues to catalyze neurological pathways. Our brains react and adapt to our environment, and even more so in the early stages of development.

    Instead of reading charlatans and their ?-filled rhetoric, do some scientific digging and learn some true science. It will release you from the fog of all those illusions they are baiting you with.

    The whole Atlantean-alien myth can be easily disproved and that is why researchers like Arysio Nunes Santos are being constantly ignored by all those “ancient alien” shows on TV and the mass media.

    • Modern Science is truth? It is the schooled shills that live on this earth that are always demanding physical proof to believe in anything. Your at the wrong site to get people to jump on your ship.

      People come to this sight so as not to be mind controlled. You may need many more lifetimes in a 3rd dimensional body to outgrow your controlling ways. Best of Fortune to You.

      • Oh yeah, and you’ve grown out of your “third dimensional body”, right?

        I wonder if you even understand the concept of dimensions as it also comes from the “schooled shills” you loathe. The fact you generalize so much tells me a little something about the nature of your development.

        The problem here is that I used to believe in the BS people like you keep peddling. I’ve grown out of that by spending years reading, observing, quantifying and challenging my own beliefs. This path would do much good to any of you.

        I don’t have any controlling ways as my only belief is the scientific method itself, not what the scientific authority says. I’ve probably read most of everything you’ve read about ETs and pretty much anything esoteric. On the other hand though, you’ve probably never dived into true scientific literature, going through tons of behavioral and neurological expirements, and looked at the data for yourself. And the thing is, most of those findings can be easily observed, can be reproduced, and the logic repeats itself across the board. People are a product of their environment.

        You may think you are at the forefront of human progress, children of the aquarian age and blah blah blah, and the fact remains, you have no appreciation for the knowledge true science brings. Like the religious institution that used to govern our lives, to the dominant institution of today, the bankers, to people like you, are dominated by belief systems, never questioning them, taking any new information and analyze them only in regards to that set of belief already in place.

        My path has given me true peace of mind, because the further I went, the better my understanding became, the better I was and am at reshaping my own belief system towards what the basic truths that are indeed observable, and can very well explain most of human behaviors.

        Peace to you my friend.

        • You would not be at this site telling myself and others about the BS that we believe is wrong and so called modern science is correct if the true purpose is not to control our thoughts.

          The fact you are at this site trying to coerce others to your corrected way of thinking is no different than any religion or political regime on this planet.

          I do not go to your modern scientific(mass media)sites and to you and argue with you that you are wrong.

          You write – “I don’t have any controlling ways as my only belief is the scientific method itself, not what the scientific authority says”

          This is not a modern scientific site – what is your purpose here? We grew up in the mind control box that you have gone back to.

          I pray that you stop throwing punches and balance your thoughts – your old path was truer than you may know, but not an easy one. 99 percent of humanity will chose the easy path – So Be It.

          • Listen up kiddo, the things I read are not from the mass media.

            I’ve read probably 95% of everything that you’ve read. You generalize so much and have your head so far up where the sun don’t shine, that you can’t make the difference between up and down. And you only see the world in black and white.

            I don’t adhere to everything the Zeitgeist movement promotes, but it should be a good starting point for you. Especially the Moving Forward documentary. You have absolutely no clue of what I’m talking about, otherwise you wouldn’t pin what I am saying as part of the mass media, and it just goes to show how little you know.

            One book all of you posters should start with is Buckminster Fuller’s The Critical Path.

            The truly insulting thing is you say I chose the easy path, and yet I’ve spent well over 2 decades learning about the bankers and their history, trauma-based mind control (templars-masons), systems theory, philosophy, theology, biology, neurology, and I did this from all sources whether underground or official. I did the hard things which is looking at both sides of the coin, and not basing my conclusions on what the voices of authority say.

            You think I should balance my thoughts? You have a lot to learn. I still have a lot to learn too, but it is clear as day that I’m much further ahead in search for knowledge.

        • The problem is all the so called “science” you’ve been reading and studying for years on end is all funded by and controlled by the same PTB that funds the charlatans and the people spewing the “demons-aliens-mediums mythology”. It’s all BS, all of it. Designed to trick is us into a false sense of security. It’s all just multiple layers of control upon control upon control.

          • I beg to differ. How can you judge without reading and informing yourself. This knowledge directly contradicts everything they forcefeed us. It’s not just information. It’s actual facts you can yourself observe and reproduce. This knowledge I have applied in child rearing and observed in other people’s children, I’ve also applied it to advice I give to people and it works the majority of the time and the results speak for themselves. It’s applied science, not theory, and it works. Do yourself a favor and get your head out of the sand. There is a path that you can take that helps to decipher what is true and what is utter BS, it’s called critical thinking. You’re just taking the easy road of denying everything.

    • Is psycho-babble and ‘strawman’ philosophy composed by the think-tanks commissioned by the 1%, all you can repeat by way of rebuttal? Who told you I am a devotee of David Icke? I write based on my experiences and intuition. The world I experience everyday cannot be de-legitimised that easily, if at all! Get your head out of the books scripted and published by the people whose agenda it is to stupidify the masses!

      • The books I read go against the core beliefs and myths spread by those who are in control of our civilization.

        They are readily ignored by the mass media. Their conclusions are based on a wealth of knowledge that “THEY” won’t give you. YOU have to search it for yourself. The funniest thing in all of this, is that conscious awareness is a term coined in modern neuro-psychology of childhood development. It has to do with self-compassion and compassion towards others, which is key in eliminating neurological dysfunctions, which is also related to what I mentioned before, the lack of emotional attachments in childhood that causes neurological dysfunction of lack of empathy.

        I’m not anything special. I’m just lucky to be the product of the path that was given to me that brought about the precise life experiences that formed a strong cognitive and empathic development in my childhood and latter years. I’m far from the only one. But most people like me are ignored by people stuck in patterns of beliefs based on illusions and myths.

        I’m not a holder of the truth. What I am telling you is stop being lazy. You obviously have somewhat of an open mind, but your formal development was probably induced by the same pattern of authority vs subordinate (teacher-student). Since you’ve grown weary of the elite authority and their obvious lies, you’ve latched on another authorative figure that you see as more benevolent and running against the core beliefs of the elite authoraty. The difference with me and other people like me, is that our early education wasn’t based on the teacher-student dynamic. I was brought about to look things for myself, to observe, instead of copying, memorizing and repeating.

        If you do have an open mind, what I am telling you is that you’ve completely ignored something that is very important to the understanding of our behavior as humans. I’m not telling you it is the truth. What I am telling you is that there are things you are ignoring, and you should look them up for yourself, because your understanding of “evil” and ‘”dark forces” is just childish, with all due respect. I used to believe these things when I was between 15-20. I’m much older now, and have learned a great deal of things since then. I’ve eliminated most of the beliefs that held me back from a better understanding of myself and others. What I am offering you is an open door. It is up to you to take it.

        • Look my Brother…..My experiences from the year 1975 with evil people and evil forces was where I started to probe the foundations of life. By 1982, they had succeeded in making me very sick. By 1986, I was trying to fathom it all in India. Have you seen Sai Baba doing miracles. I have. I was just trying to live and figure out how to be well again. Society and those closer showed me how evil they were, even into the present. In my research, I have learnt how to defeat the dark side. YOU can’t tell me that they don’t exist when I can give you from memory, a ball by ball account of their attacks on me.

          All I can say is that your early station in life is not what I went through! Do not assume that you know what I went through, and what I am going through. My advice to you is to forget the psycho-babble and read what I have to write….and accept my bona fides. Do not think that you can teach me anything I wish to learn. It is the fallacy called PATERNALISM. Instead of de-legitimising my knowledge, learn from it. You will not regret it!

          Thanks for your concern for my apparent childhood conditioning. I am a soul and programming does not affect me. If you do not accept that evil rules the society and planet…..why is it so bad everywhere?

          • Any person living by the fallacious good vs evil dichotomy has still a whole lot to learn.

            They are not “evil”. They quite simply lack empathy and are ruled by their ego complex. It is NOT a static state, as they can be rehabilitated. If you do not have the compassion to understand this and see further than the simplistic good vs evil paradigm, you are ruled by your own ego almost as worst as they are. Putting yourself on a moral pedestal vs them does not help you one iota to see how they became the way they are.

            It doesn’t help to change the world we live in either. I’m all to aware of their actions (something you keep dismissing although I strongly hinted to that). But you on the other hand are not aware that while their actions are “evil” (I’d rather say egotistical), they are not intrinsically evil. They were brought up to be like that.

            I dare you to read scientific literature, starting with researchers like Marian Cleeves Diamond, Antonio Damasio, James Gilligan, Gabor Maté, Robert Sapolsky, Stanley Greenspan, Alan Schore, Daniel Siegel and many many more, who all show the link between childhood trauma, and-or lack of optimal childhood rearing, that causes neurological dysfunctions like egotism and selfishness. These people are addicts in the literal sense, and they strongly need rehab.

            Most people who you see as evil were abused as children, didn’t have the emotional support and attachments they needed to develop proper empathic levels in their neurological make-up. We can see this across the board, with addicts, people who are depressed, people who are selfish, people who are pedophiles, killers and rapists. They all had pretty bad childhoods. They all lacked the proper developmental track. But neurons being what they are, rehabilitation is possible in EVERY case. Some might be harder than others, and that’s why people need to understand where their dysfunctions come from so we can all be more compassionate towards one another and create a world that gives us a much better environment to develop. And the key to all of this is changing people’s vision of human nature. It is the starting point, and you’re completely ignoring it.

            Anyway, I’ll stop here since I figure I am wasting my time. You are stuck in a belief system that antagonizes them instead of seeing their problem for what it is, which is also the same problem for most humans who have neurological dysfunctions. Understanding neurological dysfunctions is key to changing this world. I hope you one day realize this, as I fear that if you were put into the position of authority vs them, you would act as worst as them, rationalizing that they need to be killed because they are simply evil and there is nothing else we can do about it. And I’ll finish by saying that yes, your understanding of human nature is very limited and child-like.

          • Not to be ‘that guy’, but the ‘scientists’ you referred to are all Jewish psychiatrists.
            If your research is as deep as you claim, understanding the Zionist control system over banking, pharma, media, military, etc is too influential to deny. Also, most western psychiatrists are left brain prisoners reinforcing their indoctrination.
            I’m simply pointing out that your ‘sources’ are all aligned with generally the same ‘upbringing’ and mindset as each other.
            Research the Talmud, as your Orthodox psychiatrist Robert Sapolsky was certainly taught as a child.
            This is not to bash Jews in general, but while Zionist Israel commits genocide, fraud, and outright siphoning of wealth from other nations through central banking manipulation, most Jews silently support these actions. Along with the greatest crimes of our time (9/11, War on Terror, USS Liberty, Federal Reserve Scam, Palestinian genocide, etc) are being carried out by Jewish mafiosos, the Jewish people, as a whole have been SILENT. When you deny crimes committed by ‘your’ people in the name of ‘YOUR’ people, while rejecting historical facts and instead pointing blame in every other direction, calling Arab sympathizers anti-Semitic (While knowing Arabs=Semitic People) I consider that being complicit.

            “Your silence gives consent.” – Plato

            I consider myself a lifetime student of the universe. The more I learn, the more I realize how little I really know.
            All physical matter is vibration energy condensed, and so any ‘solidity’ is simply illusion.
            One thing that’s become more and more clear over time is the direct presence of both good and evil forces in our world. Positive and negative energy. High and low vibration frequency. More can be learned from this world through experience, observation, and expanded awareness that can be “read” in a textbook written by someone funded and indoctrinated by a specific way of thinking.

            I wrote this response because I read the entire conversation between you and jbaker, and while I don’t think you’re ‘ignorant’ or a ‘troll’, I feel you’ve committed to a specific way of thinking and thus blocked yourself off from recognizing and experiencing higher levels of truth.
            Good luck on your journey.
            - With Peace & Love

    • follow the trail man and you will find that it ALL boils down to Mind and Matter… which condition and are conditioned by each other… which is the Driver? do you know? Who are You anyway? do you OWN your mind? does your body own your mind? so evil states can exist in relation to intention which is malevelent or benign thus arises the murderer whose wish it is to kill… so which came first the chicken or the egg? the Mind or the Matter? all this science and mythology (much older than science) are so many small pieces in a puzzle much bigger than anyone can perceive… there is conditioning, food, weather, association, parenting, there is past conditioning, habits, thoughts, experiences, there is un-conditioning, forgiveness, compassion, understanding, there is also stagnation and ignorance….. which brings on the whole cycle of suffering….

      • B says : “follow the trail man and you will find that it ALL boils down to Mind and Matter… which condition and are conditioned by each other, which is the Driver? do you know?…”

        Which is exactly what I am saying. We all have genetic -predispositions- which is an hereditary accumulation of adaptations through prior environment of your fore bearers which sets up the basic reaction responses from your body and mind (for example we all have a basal level of activation of the sympathetic nervous system through glucocorticoid release), and then you have the formal environment which cues the body to the ideal levels to use to deal with the environment (for example, a fetus of a highly stressed woman will receive much higher doses of cortisol in its development, making its nervous system more reactive to mild stress cues in the environment). That is why childhood development is so important to understand, because without optimal development, the individual will fall victim to a wide array of neurological dysfunction.

        B says: “Who are You anyway? do you OWN your mind? does your body own your mind?”

        Why does it have to be one or the other? Ever heard of symbiosis, of synchronicity? One doesn’t own the other, the two work together, and you can’t have one functioning without the other. Instead of asking this question, heed to my advice and dive into neurological literature and learn it for yourself. The answers ARE there. For the whole body and mind link, I suggest to you an expert on the nervous system, Robert Sapolsky, his book, Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers is a great primer on stress and its impact on the body.

        B says : “so evil states can exist in relation to intention which is malevelent or benign thus arises the murderer whose wish it is to kill…”

        Its a lot more complicated than that. Your understanding of free will is limited by your ignorance of -free-won’t-. The murderer isn’t born a murderer. High levels of childhood trauma and the lack of proper rearing, and a formal environment that doesn’t promote empathy, and also an environment that doesn’t offer all the basic human needs, is what leads people to become murderers. To better understand this, I suggest you read James Gilligan’s Violence: Our Deadly Epidemic

        B says : “so which came first the chicken or the egg? the Mind or the Matter?”

        To answer that, you have to look at evolutionary science (although not the one driven by Watson’s fear-is-the-key rhetoric which is what the elite wants us to believe, including their whole misinterpretation of evolutionary theory). You want to know what came first between the chicken and the egg? It is the single cell organism. The SCO became more complex through mitosis, and somewhere in its development, simple mitosis became insufficient for developmental needs of the organism. Hence evolved a more complex reproductive system.

        B says : “all this science and mythology (much older than science)”

        I really laughed at this one. It’s not because mythology is older than science that it makes it better than science. Sigh. Mythology is based on ignorance of the true workings of a subject, which understanding comes through the scientific method of observing, quantifying, analyzing, hypothesis and testing. Your view of science is ridiculous at best. You have truly no respect for the good things it does bring us (most humans nowadays would get an epiphany about science if they could live just for one day in the drudgery of human life as it used to be 200, 500 and 1000 years ago.

        B says : “are so many small pieces in a puzzle much bigger than anyone can perceive…”

        And that’s why neurology is so important to the understanding. You haven’t heard much of what I’m talking about because those in power do not want you to understand how we evolve and adapt. You won’t hear much about this in the mass media, it is readily ignored.

        B says : “there is conditioning, food, weather, association, parenting, there is past conditioning, habits, thoughts, experiences, there is un-conditioning, forgiveness, compassion, understanding, there is also stagnation and ignorance….. which brings on the whole cycle of suffering….”

        Those are ALL part of the formal environment that I mentioned before. It’s better understood as -basic human needs- which are central to optimal development.

  8. To the pseudo LS :

    LS : “Not to be ‘that guy’, but the ‘scientists’ you referred to are all Jewish psychiatrists.”

    Actually, they are not “all” Jewish. Among those I did mention, James Gilligan, Antonio Damasio and Francine Benes are not Jewish, although the later two, I will concur, are not psychiatrists, they are neurologists.

    LS: “If your research is as deep as you claim, understanding the Zionist control system over banking, pharma, media, military, etc is too influential to deny.”

    Because you see it as Zionist control. I rather see it as the age old movement of the Kabbalah which got its rebirth with the Templar knights. Zionism is just another offshoot of control from that brotherhood. It is ridiculous to even judge these people by their ancestry, as most of them promote knowledge that go against that very system of control. Whether were talking about racial-genetic superiority, religious dogma, concepts of control by fear, these people of science go against these core values promoted by the elite.

    LS: “Also, most western psychiatrists are left brain prisoners reinforcing their indoctrination.”

    But how can you judge this without even getting into their own views and see what they have to tell? It is actually the other way around, you are indoctrinated to fear and you put labels on those fears. These labels are part of the mindtrap they have on most people, shackling them into mistrust of anyone associated one way or another to that group or another. Divide and conquer. One of those labels, and which is just one of the many subgroups of control, are Zionists, and to you it is the summit of the pyramid, but from my own research, it is not. Those at the top of the pyramid will always put front groups in front of themselves to redirect the blame. I concede that the ideologies and dogmas that make-up their system of control is directly related to middle-eastern traditions, but it goes much further than the Jewish roots of those dogmas and ideologies. Take your research a little further, and it boils down to the book of the dead, and dare I say, the ancestry from our first civilization, who came upon the shores of India, Iraq, South America, Cambodia and Japan, when our ancestral land got submerged at the end of the last ice age; the South China sea, or what is more commonly called the East Indies. The Annunakis, Elohims and such are just the names of the remnants of the first civilization. Take a look at googlemaps, and activate the topographic mapping, you will see a whole continent there which is about the size of Australia which is now submerged by between 60 to 150 meters of water, and that water wasn’t there over 14000 years ago. All traditions of most cultures point towards there. Now this may seem beside the point, but it is not. The first sedentary civilization gave way to higher levels of cognitivity and knowledge which the natives of the other lands did not have. So when they came upon those shores, they were seen as Gods because they could do things and knew things that the natives could not and did not. And right there is where the whole ideology of superiority and control started, quite especially in Egypt. That’s the fundamental history the elite learn. That they come down from this lineage of superiority. Zionism is based on that as much as Christianity (the system of control) is based on that. Just two sides of the same coin.

    LS : “i’m simply pointing out that your ‘sources’ are all aligned with generally the same ‘upbringing’ and mindset as each other.”

    That’s a hugely weak generalization which permits you to brush them off and reducing them to something they might just not be. I can tell you from experience that most of the names I have mentioned are seen as radicals by academia and the mass media. They are shunted to the side. How can you even know if they fall into line without reading them? Simply because they have Jewish names, and you think of yourself as open-minded??? I can tell you for sure that they are not “ALIGNED’ as I have read them and know just how much those in control do not want to promote what they have to say.

    LS: “Research the Talmud, as your Orthodox psychiatrist Robert Sapolsky was certainly taught as a child.”

    You see, that’s exactly where the whole problem lies. I’ve read the Talmud, I’ve also read the Zohar, Torah and the protocols, and I know for certain that Sapolsky is an atheist who did not follow into the footsteps of his Jewish upbringings, just like I didn’t follow into the footsteps of my Christian upbringings (and oh boy, here it comes, I also have Jewish roots, and I also have Irish roots, so I must be a Torah thumping-IRA bombing zionist faschist indoctrinated in the system of control but also with a rebelliouness against protestants). Try reading Sapolsky instead of shrugging him off. The knowledge he will impart on you will help you deal with many problems we all have in life; stress. You couldn’t be further from the truth about him. You see the thing is, is I used to think just like you. But what made me change was realizing that nothing is black and white, and to dismiss someone based on implanted fears is just doing a disservice to yourself.

    LS: This is not to bash Jews in general, but while Zionist Israel commits genocide, fraud, and outright siphoning of wealth from other nations through central banking manipulation, most Jews silently support these actions. Along with the greatest crimes of our time (9/11, War on Terror, USS Liberty, Federal Reserve Scam, Palestinian genocide, etc) are being carried out by Jewish mafiosos, the Jewish people, as a whole have been SILENT. When you deny crimes committed by ‘your’ people in the name of ‘YOUR’ people, while rejecting historical facts and instead pointing blame in every other direction, calling Arab sympathizers anti-Semitic (While knowing Arabs=Semitic People) I consider that being complicit.”

    And aren’t you also complicit as an American, as someone who probably has Christian roots, for the same order of crimes? As soon as you LIVE into the monetary system and live the comfortable life that we have in industrialized nations, you are complicit in the same order as they are, because the monetary system itself and the advantages it gives us is what keeps that entire system of control together, because yes, anyone making over 40k per year is living much better than 90% of the rest of the planet, and their pain and suffering is done so we can live better lives than they are.

    “Your silence gives consent.” – Plato

    And if you saw a little further than your own fears, you would know just how complicit you also are, anytime you are selling, buying or working into the system, you are complicit in all those acts. And the funny thing is those names I mention know this, they want to change this, as much as many of us want to change it, and they bring concrete knowledge that can make us go over the threshold. But by denying them, you are also complicit in not doing what it takes to change things, and that is learning and keeping an open mind, and not fall for gambit they force you into.

    Also, i just want to point out, as I saw you wrote -federal reserve scam-, that you are highly ignorant of how banking came to be if that’s the label you put on it. When I talk about it, I mention fractional reserve banking, because ALL central banks, monetary fund and banking cartels are based on this principal, not just the fed. It would do you a lot of good to actually do the research instead of just repeating what you read on Rense.com.

    LS: “I consider myself a lifetime student of the universe. The more I learn, the more I realize how I really know. All physical matter is vibration energy condensed, and so any ‘solidity’ is simply illusion.”

    This really made me laugh, as that line of thought, the “illusion” is buddhist dogma, and also Quantum physics dogma (a LOT of Jews there too who promote this view lol). There’s no illusion. It is matter, and it is there. You live a life and there’s only one exit to that life, and its no illusion. Do you even know what an illusion is? An illusion is something that you see but is not there. But anyway how you wanna slice it, no matter if its energy or electricity, they form SOMETHING, and those things are there whether you wanna accept them or not, whether you wanna accept life or not, those things are not illusions, they are REAL. It’s just further BS to mix you up. Further BS to make you believe, bah well, everything is just an illusion, so better discount anything that doesn’t sit well with my view of things, its just all illusion anyway. Do you love someone? Because I do, and I can tell you its no illusion, even if I know that there is a neuro-chemical reaction inside my brain that makes me feel this, the process is still there, it’s not an illusion.

    So its Jewish when you wanna disregard something, but when it fits you perception, then its okay if someone like Einstein said “everything is energy and that’s all there is to it”… OMG

    I too am a student of the entirety of reality, but the difference is, I’m not locked into a mindset. I see people as people, and look at what they have to say before judging if they are directly or indirectly part of an indoctrination. You clearly haven’t read any of the names I have mentioned, because you wouldn’t generalize and brush them off. And if you were truly a student of the universe, you would look at EVERYTHING and make up your mind afterwards, which is what I did, instead of just denying something because you “SEE” an inkling to the system of control you fear. Fear is paralyzing and that’s exactly what they want you to act and think.

    LS: “One thing that’s become more and more clear over time is the direct presence of both good and evil forces in our world. Positive and negative energy. ”

    I can tell you that what is clear is that you have A LOT to learn about human behavior and about ‘energies’. There is no such thing as a negative particle. Particles are either neutral, or positively charged, and the universe itself it teaming with charged particles that give life to our galaxies and our stars-suns. There is no such think as dark energy and dark matter, which BTW, is something highly promoted by astrophysicists whom many among them are, among other things… Jewish!

    There is no such thing as good and evil except in the present moment. They aren’t “forces”, they are behaviors that are molded into people. This view you have has been indoctrinated into you by the mass media (star wars and such, so many movies who promote this view, movies made by JEWS!) and many religions (most major religions), and if you knew anything about our behavioral development, you would know just how childish this view is. Sure someone can act ‘evil’ or act ‘good’, but those aren’t static states or forces. They are behaviors, and behavior is not intrinsic, is not static, and is not inherited through genes.

    “High and low vibration frequency.”

    There is no SUCH THING as a negative frequency, a low frequency is still positive, presence is a positive form, so there is no negative frequency. Sure we can arbitrarily define something as negative, but the mere presence of a force is something positive in nature. A force cannot be negative unless we arbitrarily define it as negative. They have you mixed up so much into their paradigm, into their divisional dichotomies that you can’t see pass what they want you to believe and serves them for you to no see what is actually something that goes against their core beliefs.

    “More can be learned from this world through experience, observation, and expanded awareness that can be “read” in a textbook written by someone funded and indoctrinated by a specific way of thinking.”

    Get your head out of the sand. I’ve been doing both the former and the latter and that is what you do not see. You don’t even understand what the scientific method is. Those aren’t just textbooks you doof. They ARE experiences you can repeat and observe, and the true show of ignorance on your behalf is that you think that I simply read something and believe it to be true. Oh, right, I don’t observe, and it’s not because of those observations in the first place that lead me to learn more about those specific things. You’re not a student of the universe, or else you would actually want to learn everything, and inevitably, your path would lead you down to try and understand the most basic thing related to the human problem and that is human behavior, and you clearly do not know where human behavior comes from. And what is truly funny is that you keep talking about indoctrination, when you don’t see that most of your beliefs are based on exactly that.

    LS “I wrote this response because I read the entire conversation between you and jbaker, and while I don’t think you’re ‘ignorant’ or a ‘troll’, I feel you’ve committed to a specific way of thinking and thus blocked yourself off from recognizing and experiencing higher levels of truth.
    Good luck on your journey.
    - With Peace & Love”

    Do yourself a favor, get off your -student of the universe- pedestal, and start actually learning.

    • You have crossed the line into TROLL territory and have insulted the intelligence of every person on this open minded website.
      If you’re going to write a 2500 word response, I suggest addressing the points made instead of using endless labels to define the messenger, and then spending your remaining energy discrediting the messenger.

      You aren’t going to convince anyone here that Zionism doesn’t have global monolithic influence, and even if it’s not the capstone of the control pyramid, it’s the most visible and applicable to today’s world affairs.
      I have to ask. Why are you attempting to defend the indefensible?

      You also aren’t going to convince anyone here that good and evil forces don’t exist in the universe, so what, may I ask is your purpose here?

      You repeatedly misquoted me and couldn’t answer any of my points without putting words in my mouth to change the subject or making assumptions about me. A classic tactic of disinformation agents.

      What is your purpose here? To convince us that everything wrong in the world is just a random variation of events and it’s futile for anyone to attempt to identify the cause of such problems and remove them?
      That good and evil don’t exist and so we should do as you do and go around to every truth seeking forum and discredit and attack anyone that thinks there’s more to this life than what’s taught in school or written in a science book?

      You see, we are here because we CAN see. We are here because we have grown tired of the one dimensional mindset that plagues the mainstream. We can see through your left brain prison and are beginning to see the dream world which has been pulled over our eyes.

      If anyone did have the time or the energy to read your ‘response’ (essay) to me they would see your motivations are NOT based in truth. Whether or not you believe what you’re saying, you are clearly more motivated to ‘proving’ others wrong and stirring an argument.
      I, like many on here, have grown tired of dealing with spiritually degrading individuals.

      And no, I’m not complicit in the world crimes because I’m an American. The moment I discovered what was going on, I used my free speech rights to help spread the truth of 9/11, Banking fraud, Indoctrination Prison System, Pharma, Agra(Monsanto), and the propaganda outlet system (TV).
      Choosing the path of truth is choosing to leave the past life for something better. I lost countless friends and a comfortable way of life for speaking and acting on my beliefs. I’m more concerned about the innocent kids being forcibly medicated and poisoned by ‘doctors’ than reinforcing the current model of medicine.
      I will not tolerate these mainline Jewish Zionist psychiatrists heavily promoted psychotropic drugging of our children. Does that make me racist/anti-semitic? No. It makes me compassionate about the health of innocent children.

      YOU SAID: “Actually, they are not “all” Jewish. Among those I did mention, James Gilligan…”

      OK fine…

      [James Gilligan is an American psychiatrist and husband of Carol Gilligan (an American feminist, ethicist, and psychologist.) Carol Gilligan was raised in a Jewish family in New York City.]

      • LMAO

        You’re paranoid buddy, and racist to boot.

        Instead of concentrating on Gillian’s wife, why don’t you read his work, it -might- enlighten you. Also, I forgot to mention, Sapolsky isn’t a psychiatrist, he’s a biologist and neurologist and works primarily with primates, not in a lab, but basically, in the field, observing them, and their hierarchy and mode of life. His work on stress has helped more people than you ever will meet in life.

        Instead of getting all out of breath repeating the same generalizations about scientists from the Jewish community and seeing the entire world in black and white, grow-up.

        You talk of acting like a disinfo agent… I could say the same of you, fostering hatred towards Jews has always been the keystone of Zionism. Should I quote? You know which quote I’m talking about.

        BTW, the left brain side is rationality. It would do you much good, because your entire mindset is irrational. You probably had some great amount of stress in your childhood as you’re unable to self-regulate your emotions. This lack of self-control is shown by your constant generalizations based on irrational fears.

        You equate all the names I gave with people who lack compassion, when in fact, the names I gave, if you would’ve done the effort to dive into their work, are extremely compassionate. The fact you constantly put them into the same mold as people who aren’t compassionate yet know nothing about their work and life, and keep repeating the fallacy that they are mainstream would have one believe you are the disinfo agent. I even get the feeling that this site is a hook, another false belief system for the alien nuts to grab unto.

        Wouldn’t surprise me the least.

        I’ve said what I had to say, and everything in your response, I already knew. You’re not informing me of anything new.

        Those in power will only be stopped with knowledge, not some bogus belief right out of star wars… a story made by a….

        • Oh, and I bet you haven’t read half of what I said. But I’m sure people who are more open-minded have, they can make up their opinion for themselves, instead of falling for your brand of generalized hatred.

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